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People I have had bad experiences with.

Paul Stokes (Customdaytona186@aol.com) ...Not a theif, but not a very good trader either. We were supposed to swap $250 worth of cards, to be mailed on Sept.28th, 2002. I sent mine, but he didn't send his until October 18th, after numerous emails and after I made contact with his local police department. He is also listed as a bad trader on the CTF site:
 

Paul Stokes

1407 Nickerson Ave.

Benton Harbor, MI 49022

beckett id:thedeadlyones1986

thedeadlyones1986@aol.com

thedeadlyones86@aol.com

arcticchill86@aol.com (OLD E-MAIL ADDRESS)

REPORTED BY: funnyguy0015@yahoo.com

REPORTED BY: Ojvera711@cs.com
 
He says he's listed there because he didn't send first and because he refused to trade with someone. I can only go by my experience with him and I would not recommend trading with him UNLESS he sends first. The cards he sent were all in very nice condition and he did a good job on packaging, so he can be a good trader when he wants to be. 
 

Steven Waller (s_wall_83@hotmail.com) ....I'm listing him here because of his rudeness to me and because he offered no apology for it, only sarcasm. Here's the story: he said he had a Mike Miller 3-color jersey with blue, silver and black in it. I had never heard of the black and silver Magic uniforms having any blue in them, I was thinking maybe the black and silver was from the logo patch on the blue uniforms, also, I'd seen eBay sellers listing jerseys as mulicolored and it's just different shades of the same color, so I wanted to know for sure what I'd be getting before I agreed to trade 2x book for the card. I asked if he could send me a scan and I got yelled at (in caps) for asking. Very rude, very uncalled for. Then, after everything, he sends me the scan, which would have been a very nice gesture on his part, but he gives the email a smart-assed subject heading. If he can send the scan to rub my face in it, why couldn't he have just sent me the scan in the first place? At the very least, he could have just explained that he was busy and couldn't do it right now. Here are the unedited transcripts of our entire conversation, starting with my reply to his CTF post and tradelist. You can judge for yourself and see if you think he was rude, or if it was me who provoked him somehow:
 
Hi Steven,
I'm interested in these cards from your tradelist:
 
2002 Topps Black Border Horace Grant 304/500     $3.60
2002 Fleer Mike MIller ON the Up 3 Color Jersey  $12
 
My tradelist is listed here:
 
https://cardbudz.tripod.com/
 
I haven't updated it in a couple of weeks, so I may not have some of the cards listed. Also, the cards in my "due in" section are questionable; the guy who was supposed to be sending them to me appears to have ripped me off.
 
Let me know what all you can use. Thanks!
 
Gary
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i want 25 in trade on the miller
it is a 3 color PATCH
if you are willing to give me 25 for it fine if not, i will not be trading it
steven
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Steven,
What are the 3 colors? If they're all different, I'd consider it, but if it's just different shades of blue or something, then I'd likely not do that because that's not very rare for a Magic uniform.
 
Gary
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the main part of the jersey is black with a grey stipe going threw it at the bottom of the jersey is blue from the magic jersey
if you do not give me 25 in trade, i do not have a problem at all holding onto it at ll, it is a sweet looking card
steven
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Steven,
Do you have a scan of that you can send?
 
Gary
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NO I DO NOT HAVE A SCAN OF THE CARD, AND I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME RIGHT NOW TO SCAN IT FOR YOU, I WILL GET RID OF THE CARD ANOTHER TIME I GUESS, NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER ASKED 2000243 QUESTION ABOUT A 25 DOLLAR CARD BEFORE
I AM BUSY RUNNING MY BUSINESS AND DOING TRADES SORRY DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS
STEVEN
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Man, you are rude. I was curious because the black and silver uniform are different than the blue uniforms. I will let others know how rude you are, pal.
 
Gary
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FINE THAT IS COOL WITH ME DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO
THE CARD IS GONE NOWL, JUST SOLD IT, IT WAS LISTED ON BECKETT AND I JUST SOLD IT FOR 8 DOLLARS PLUS 2 DOLLARS SHIPPING
SO THAT IS WHY I WASNT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING A SCAN OF IT
NO ONE ELSE WORRIED ABOUT IT
STEVEN
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Who cares? That's no reason to be rude to me. I have never seen those 3 colors together and I was just curious what part of the uniform it was from, especially since you wanted 2x book for it. Is that not OK? It wasn't a big deal, and it was certainly no reason for you to jump on me. Others have asked me for scans and I complied, it's part of trading. Sometimes people want to see what they're getting. Again, no reason to be rude to someone.
 
I'm not going to "try" to do anything.
 
Good day.
 
Gary
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Subject: PICTURE OF MILLER TO MAKE YOU HAPPY

here you want to see the picture,

see if this works
 
(he attached the scan of the card with this email)